Population is insane; end game PvE and PvP are both hoppin. I’ve been playing Classic on and off since it rebooted, never super seriously. Players from all those 10 servers, play on one singular server. 1 Like. Blizzard ForumsI believe we have created a doom loop where new OCE players are directed to the Whitemane cluster when we should all rally to ours. For reference I play a troll hunter. Important to note for any OCE PvE players that Remulos is not connected either. Its good, just not mega server size. There are 2 clusters in PVP servers in EU. I’m considering starting up fresh on Era, but I feel like most people on Era are on there to do hardcore. I suspect in a few weeks AB and Gulch will pick up. Whitemane. Classic era start - Whitemane server. Asma-bloodsail-buccaneers. 7AM eastern / 4AM pacific. Our Goals Currently, we are keeping our goals small and few. The population has been consistent for months now. Thanks! comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a CommentWe have a lot of fun on Whitemane server! From pvp to raiding, players of all level and gear. Now that some Era clusters are absolutely booming in population, layers have been reenabled and i suggest queues to be the healthier solution for the Classic experience. Classic Era Realms Being Locked Not Intended. I play on the classic era whitemane cluster and oh my god is the server economy completely and utterly fucked up. ) Pve cluster of mankrik which is alliance dominated. Which one is more populated for Alliance - the Whitemane or Mankrik. Alliance ~11k, Horde ~2. Whitemane cluster - PvP. All others on the list connect to one of these. This blows. They are a single Battlegroup. If I may ask was thinking of coming back to classic is whitemane big on horde or alliance. Whitemane is popping off rn. . If you want AB / WSG that has been on the back leg since the PvP patch because lots of new players are doing AV. 8. Most servers are fully 1 faction or the other. Btw, play a human. But as players move on from the initial hype of […]So The Population Boom On Whitemane's Cluster. The other day we were rolling Horde in AB. This is our implementation of crossfaction content, meaning you can team up with your opposing faction. 7), we will be connecting many Classic Era realms during maintenance on Wednesday, May 19. 8k Mankrik cluster - PvE Alliance ~11k, Horde ~2. And for sure Whitemane and Mankrik have a huge and healthy AH. Discord community server for the World of Warcraft Classic Era NA PvE East server cluster. I hope this guide was helpful in your decision on what Vanilla/Classic Era server to play on! See you in game! Fiance just renewed her sub to play with me on whitemane cluster. 1. World of Warcraft Classic launched in 2019, giving players a chance to relive the classic vanilla experience of WoW from 2006. No more guessing what “Low” or “High” population means, and no more creating an Horde character only to discover your server is 90% Alliance. I’ll ask around and report back!Powered by Restream WoW Era Whitemane Cluster Leveling / PvPthe 5 mediums are part of the same cluster (whitemane cluster) which is the PST NA cluster of PvP realms. The PvP West Server Cluster is pretty busy. Greetings! My guild <The Silver Hand> on Whitemane cluster on classic era is looking for more people! We have players of all level ranges and we have a full 40 man raid team as well. I also help with quests if you need them. WoW Classic General Discussion. Reply genesis88 • Additional comment actions. Atiesh, Azuresong, Myzrael, and Old Blanchy. I plan on an undead warlock. Looks like you transferred to one of the lower pop server clusters. I am looking to try and play through 1-60 again. Replies: 1 Views: 185. I thought Mankrik was good but it looks to be mostly just Alliance which I don’t play. Sort of a nerdy aside here. You can literally watch these boosters use hacks with no repercussion. | 3703 members. Mankrik cluster is def the most populated atm. The cluster server is all there is. Will Classic Era servers stay up? Wanting to try them. Whitemane. 6. So you can join any PVP server, and you'll see people from other servers and be able to raid/trade. Been finding the grouping/raiding at 60 to be limited. 5. The cluster server is all there is. Hopefully we should have it unl… Live PTR 10. The Firemaw cluster today has achieved a size of a former medium sized classic server, and our PvE cluster (Pyrewood Village) has also experienced growth over time. Since then, WoW Classic has expanded to include the first two expansions to the game, The Burning Crusade, and Wrath of the Lich King. Step into the world reshaped by Deathwing and face numerous dangers, make new allies and form new friendships; Whitemane delivers you the most amazing Cataclysm experience. The Whitemane cluster includes: WoW Classic Era Realm Connections Coming May. They allow people to blatantly cheat and are objectively the death of social aspects of the game. Looks like our realms are dead, so the next best option with population would be whitemane cluster, is that right? I’d prefer to roll pve but that is East coast and another 60ms from the west coast 160ms… Any Aussie gu…Hi Everyone! (this is a repost) We’re inviting all potential Whitemane players to join the largest Whitemane Discord and Subreddit! With over 5000 discord members (and quickly growing), we are a neutral Discord Server solely with the hope to bring all players together in a welcoming environment!. 2. That means that if you transfer the character to one of them, you’ll put yourself into a cluster of realms. I do not expect that Alliance will be quitting in droves, more so that there’s going to be more and more horde,. Once you click OK, you will see this screen (below). Just hit the 40's on my char, after getting 2 others to low 20's. We do not have exact numbers, but if the census data is near true, Era used to have 60/40 ratio H:A. ) PVP cluster of whitemane which is pretty balanced across horde/ally. Since the game does have a finite end, the mindset I would recommend is to take the game slow and focus on the present. These realms are effectively merged as one server, commonly referred to as a ‘cluster’. As someone mentioned above, Whitemane has had a good boost recently with some revoking there, and is also a much more balanced server with it being roughly 45%A / 55%H (maybe 40:60). Heal an allied Hero for 140 (+4% per level) and gain Desperation for 4 seconds. IIRC even the most populated Classic Era cluster has only 20% the player count of a single WOTLK server lmao. i guess at this point you just gotta pick your. ago. The AHs are almost empty. Reply 612_ephesians •. Below is additional information about Classic Era Wo. I believe Whitemane has the larger Horde population, but if you really hate PvP, I think Mankrik has enough that you’ll still be able to do things and enjoy the game. • 4 mo. For a balanced population, if you're ok rolling on PvP, Whitemane cluster is your go to. Really, most contested areas are messy at times. As we approach the moment when WoW Classic players will make the choice to move on to The Burning Crusade Classic (version 2. WoW Classic. Hi, new to whitemane anything, originally played grobbulus since day 1 and still do in wotlk. These are all the servers that have a lot of activity for Era standards. Asma-bloodsail-buccaneers. Whitemane era cluster locked! - WoW Classic General Discussion - US - Blue Tracker - World of Warcraft Hi Everyone, Just popping in to confirm that Whitemane-Era being locked is not intended and we are looking into this. 13. Important to note for any OCE PvE players that Remulos is not connected either. There’s no real latency between East and West. With over 100 members now and a massive influx of hardcore raiding interest we're fostering a large guild full of hardcore players who want to be the best on Whitemane. Clastic-whitemane. 20685 • 99. Skilla-bleeding-hollow. 4k, Horde ~3. as for wrath, i’ve been on eranikus since the server came out (wotlk prepatch), at the beginning it was alliance heavy, then balanced, now it seems to be horde heavy. Got shot by an ele-sham in Redridge but a roving band of players slaughtered them. 2 Likes. They are a bit more relaxed/laid-back raids, 3 hour+ Naxx clear. Acts-whitemane April 17, 2023, 3:37pm #3. So this was likely taken from an RP server cluster where in HC you don’t use an AH. Eyr-whitemane February 12, 2023, 9:54pm #21. The 2 main clusters are whitemane pvp west and Mankrik pve east. July 30, 2023. < Aeternal > is a new reroll/leveling guild on Classic Era - Whitemane Cluster. You don't even notice the ping difference tbh. 100% facts regarding Whitemane. Are there any vanilla classic pve or pvp realm clusters where you can actually queue into a BG and join in a relative short period of time. Eyr-whitemane February 20, 2023, 9:00pm 7. 4k, Horde ~3. ago. The other day i was able to count about 290ish alliance and 170ish horde ppl 1 to 59 on the Pagle-Mankrik cluster and about 110ish horde and 70ish alliance ppl 11 to 59 on the Whitemane cluster. 17346 • 99. If you want EZ mode and you’re not looking for the target rich place to play, the horde is better I. Servercluster has a discord of 4-5k in it. We’ve found the configuration bug that caused multiple layers to spin up on non-Hardcore Classic Era realms. Oscartheclout. Now that some Era clusters are absolutely booming in population, layers have been reenabled and i suggest queues to be the healthier solution for the Classic experience. ago. Honestly, they really should combine all the servers together, there should only be one pvp and one pve server per region. 1 Like. Servercluster has a discord of 4-5k in it. Good Job dominating hope alliance get there ISH together before they all server. Are you interested in playing WoW Classic on the Classic Era server cluster? Join the discussion on the official forum and share your thoughts, experiences and suggestions with other players who love the original version of the game. Realms within the same cluster are effectively merged. Also the absence of bots, gold sellers, and boosting selling makes for a more healthy. Almost every aspect of the game is crossfaction compatible on Maelstrom. For instance, Mankrik is a PVE Horde mega server. You'll have the most luck on servers that were never high pop like Arcanite. When free transfers were made available from every PvP server in Classic Era to Whitemane, it automatically made it the go-to destination to try and consolidate the Classic Era community. Powered by Restream Classic. 0. Comment by Ximu on 2021-09-29T07:37:35-05:00 I just created a character probably a week ago on Whitemane. Alliance ~4. We simply. Feels like 60% Horde, and 40% Alliance in world. Got mass reported to the point of getting an in-game warning for "Language". We do not have exact numbers, but if the census data is near true, Era used to have 60/40 ratio H:A. Which server is the biggest in terms of RP or just High in general? Anathema, Arcanite Reaper, Bigglesworth, Blaumeux, Fairbanks, Kurinnaxx, Rattlegore, Smolderweb, Thunderfury, and Whitemane *. Asked in general on both horde and alliance side if the server on Whitemane has a discord or maybe the cluster. They allow people to blatantly cheat and are objectively the death of social aspects of the game. The Classic Era clusters holding Whitemane (PvP) & Mankrik(PvE) had a number of free transfers sent their way but some folks still play on the other clusters & RP realms. ) Hardcore pve challenge server of Bloodsail Bucs which favors alliance but there is still a decent horde pop. I have been playing alliance. 3 hour Naxx clear Tuesday night (our best was 2h47m 2 weeks ago which was NA Classic Era #1). Basically, I'd like to. For what it’s worth Whitemane cluster era is pretty lit right now. Our raid team consists mostly of pre-BiS to ZG/AQ20 geared 60’s with a couple of fully geared 60’s sprinkled in there. Whitemane era guilds and community. The Whitemane cluster includes: WoW Classic Era Realm Connections Coming May 18. Boosts are still a thing. Classic Theme Thottbot Theme. Whitemane is balanced ally/horde pvp server. For pve servers Mankrik is well populated and is an east coast server. So many people having fun playing the good old true classic World of Warcraft. 00. Low lvl bgs tho are not active; no bg exp in vanilla. The east PvE cluster consists of Ashkandi, Mankrik, Pagle, Westfall, and Windseeker. What server has Horde players?<Mid Tier> [H] - Whitemane. So The Population Boom On Whitemane's Cluster. 191. There is a 50ms difference between connecting to the East-based servers and West-Based servers. Whitemane PvP Cluster is currently High Population Mankrik PvE Cluster is currently at Medium Population. StinkyFartyToot • • Additional comment actions. Both factions on both of these realms are somewhat active, but still quite low pop. honestly it should be met with a dishonorable kill. 3. Then he brings his friend whos a priest and all of a sudden there's a big skirmish. Classic era is most active on the Whitemane cluster. Definitely grouped with a few aussies on mankrik recently, seemed to be no latency issues for them. Today I experienced something incredibly unfortunate when it came to World Bosses on the server: People who had killed the 1st window of World Bosses (Specifically Green Dragons) were ineligible for any loot drop from the 2nd window of World Bosses. Both are good options and booming with Alliance, just depends on what kind of gameplay you want . It’s actually really refreshing to see the world very much alive rather than everyone just pigeon holed in one area. We’ve found the configuration bug that caused multiple layers to spin up on non-Hardcore Classic Era realms. Knetik-shadowstrike. HC PvP Server PLEASE. After seeing this post I was excited to come back and play Classic again, Vanilla being my favourite version of the game. The Whitemane cluster is the only PvP option but it’s a very. Asked in general on both horde and alliance side if the server on Whitemane has a discord or maybe the cluster. July 30, 2023. For the whitemane PvP cluster like there is for the progression realms? Also bring back clones. I also checked Alliance and there were total 40 character - 10x lvl60. Definitely grouped with a few aussies on mankrik recently, seemed to be no latency issues for them. Whitemane cluster for pvp (ally and horde pretty balanced). 13. Whitemane (Pacific) Oceanic: Arugal (Australian Eastern Time) Felstriker (Australian Eastern Time) Yojamba (Australian Eastern Time) WoW Classic servers: Roleplay. bloodsail buccaneers is a PROUD RP-PVE server. All clusters seem to be poppin off right now. Topic, just want to know if there’s active non-Hardcore classic era still going. Whitemane is the way for OCE. 155 people online, including 62 level 60 players. So, if you see me in the level range to do a dungeon hit me up. Cauchy-heartseeker. 70-80 60's on during raid nights. Asked in general on both horde and alliance side if the server on Whitemane has a disco… when classic era was small, everyone was nice and polite. Thanks in advance. 1 Like. Whitemane is the way for OCE. There are 3 options. 1 Like. Alliance ~4. Report ip hash: 7a3135b335f4ce071a504f. ago. Desperation increases Desperate Plea's Mana cost by 40, and stacks up to 3 times. 2. 2k Pyrewood Village cluster - PvE. I played through all of Phase 1 and acquired full Naxx 25 gear on this character. Sourced from ‘Vanilla Classic Era’ discord, Resources channel and server census channel for population status. get my fill and log off. If you /who Warsong Gulch there’s only a handful of players on at once. I play horde on US West PVP cluster - we have 2 raiding guilds, so it's not completely dead. Replies. Low pop but not dead. And just ignore the boosting spam, unless that is your. All in all, that is a total of 8 different. We're currently laying the groundwork for a second raid team. I am looking to try and play through 1-60 again. Mankrik is the PvE one, for the actual list of realms in these you’d have to google it but any of the realms in those two clusters are having a fairly nice resurgence. Most populated us pvp server is Whitemane but it is west coast but there might be an east coast one in that cluster. Most populated us pvp server is Whitemane but it is west coast but there might be an east coast one in that cluster. Thanks for the reply. Whitemane era cluster locked! - WoW Classic General Discussion - US - Blue Tracker - World of Warcraft Hi Everyone, Just popping in to confirm that Whitemane-Era being. What a fantastic success 💥 ERA 💥 has become. If you happen to be on other servers, there is a free transfer available to firemaw from all other era servers. [“Whitemane”] = { [“notes”] = { [“Gainzs”] = “DM 2023. Are you talking TBC? Or the Classic Era realms? Classic Era servers are the Whitemane cluster for PVP and the. Bunch of sweaty non rp players squatting on a rp server, sad days. from what i can tell you either play on the whitemane pvp cluster for horde or mankrik pve cluster for alliance, but it looks like either way both have big. Welcome! i see pagle is really active but it’s on. Your experience should be quite different on the Mankrik or Whitemane clusters. As mentioned earlier ITT, the PvE East and PvP West clusters are the most populated but there are other communities/guilds on the smaller PvE West and PvP East clusters. Whitemane doesn't put up much of a fight and concentrates only on healing Mograine and herself, so she is an ideal target for any clothie in your group. Theres enough activity to run raids and stuff but its not the same activity as on Wotlk. On the German PVP cluster (Venoxis, Heartstriker, and Dragon’s Call) the Alliance guild <Blutmond> is 15/15 Naxx. I come back to hear people talking about the 'Whitemane Cluster' on the classic era server, but I'm pretty much out of the loop for what 'cluster' actually means. There is one in particular, a T3 geared Druid. Hello! This is a bit strange, but I can’t find anything in regards to specific population in Classic Era realms (Not WotLK era), but i’m looking for a balanced server, maybe PvP, I see a few that have medium and I think Whitemane might be a good place, but i’m not sure. Mankrik is a pve server, but is much more alliance. Thanks in advance. On the PVE German server Everlook, the Alliance guild <Evershire> is 10/15 Naxx. Cheers for the laughs Shadowdjy. You can play on any of the non free Xfer realms if Mankrik & Whitemane clusters are too crowded for you. Blizzard has announced upcoming WoW Classic Era realm connections which will be coming on May 18th. 7), we will be connecting many Classic Era realms during maintenance on Tuesday, May 18. Whitemane: the best place for WoW Servers. Mankrik is open if you want to be the laughing stock of the cluster, yes. But don’t leave WOTLK servers dead lol, We want you and you want us, join us on this adventure and make WoW history forever. ) Pve cluster of mankrik which is alliance dominated. i never. You've been invited to join. Come join us! I frequently see Naxx, Ony, MC, AQ20, ZG pugs going out. i moved all my toons just now. More experience from quests and kills, all flight paths unlocked, automatic and free spell learning. According to reports, the high pop server cluster for PVE is the PVE East cluster of Ashkandi, Mankrik, Pagle, Westfall, and Windseeker (aka the Mankrik cluster) while the high pop for PVP is the PVP West cluster of Anathema, Arcanite Reaper, Bigglesworth, Blaumeux, Fairbanks, Kurinnaxx, Rattlegore, Smolderweb, Thunderfury,. You can transfer your SOM character there for free, population is pretty balanced because people heavily rolled Alliance due to harder PVE encounters in SOM and Horde are all going there to PvP. It took a lot of mana for me to kill her as a 40 mage because Whitemane constantly heals herself. If you want EZ mode and you’re not looking for the target rich place to play, the horde is better I. Not sure why blizz hasn’t done it yet. Alliance ~11k, Horde ~2. Looking to level casually on one of the classic era clusters. Whitemane for PVP and Mankrik for PVE. Even at 60 BGs are dead on era. Most servers are fully 1 faction or the other. I personally hate GDKP, and now it is being brought to HC realms! That’s all! Enjoy!Whitemane is the 'biggest' server but due to our time differences, by the time we're online it doesnt matter anyway because the Americans would be asleep and the server is 'dead' anyway. What a fantastic success 💥 ERA 💥 has become. Here are the clusters in this region: Anathema, Arcanite Reaper, Bigglesworth, Blaumeux, Fairbanks, Kurinnaxx, Rattlegore, Smolderweb, Thunderfury, and Whitemane; Arugal, Felstriker, and Yojamba; Ashkandi, Mankrik,. 1 raiding guild on horde on NA PVE east, currently 13/15 Naxx. 1. I don't know all the servers that are part of that cluster, but Whitemane (obviously) and Fairbanks are. I can’t speak for other clusters but the whitemane cluster is very active even all hours of the night of all level ranges. Pinehearst. My warrior is close to 60, but since I’m still raiding in wotlk I don’t want to commit to anything. You can play with your friends, swap racials,. Server itself is a little less important, its more about clusters. slippery-otter • 3 mo. The Mankrik-pagle-ashkandi-westfall-winseeker cluster has active raiding guild (s) in each faction. ago. Same for PVE, but most of the population is on PVP (so clustered with whitemane) 1. Alliance ~1. In Classic Era there are two server clusters that have been designated to receive free transfers from the others. The Hardcore realms shou…Classic Era have server clusters according to timezone and server type. As far as I know, there are some connected realms (clusters) for Classic Era. Super active it’s like a fresh server right now and TONS of people leveling. And for sure Whitemane and Mankrik have a huge and healthy AH. I’ll play solo mostly, at least to start, maybe some dungeon groups as I level if I can find any. I understand there are clusters and the majority of servers remaining. Asked in general on both horde and alliance side if the server on Whitemane has a disco…According to reports, the high pop server cluster for PVE is the PVE East cluster of Ashkandi, Mankrik, Pagle, Westfall, and Windseeker (aka the Mankrik cluster) while the high pop for PVP is the PVP West cluster of Anathema, Arcanite Reaper, Bigglesworth, Blaumeux, Fairbanks, Kurinnaxx, Rattlegore, Smolderweb, Thunderfury,. I. Some more info here on them. If you're Horde, you have only 2 options pretty much: Whitemane (US) or Firemaw (EU) Alliance can transfer to PvE servers as well because there's actual Alliance populations on PvE servers (Mankirk/Pyrewood Village) Keep in mind when people say whitemane, they mean the whitemane cluster which. So this was likely taken from an RP server cluster where in HC you don’t use an AH. 3 Likes. Powered by Restream WoW Era Whitemane Cluster Leveling / PvPI play horde on US West PVP cluster - we have 2 raiding guilds, so it's not completely dead. there is something for you!horde and ally pop is sooo close to. The servers have large levelling guilds with players running all. **We will be officially launching Sunday, June 25th @ 2:00pm CST (12:00pm PST). They have plans to spin up emergency realms very quickly if needed at Classic launch. Acts-whitemane April 17, 2023, 3:37pm #3. Its beyond that, the individual servers does not actually exist. I have been playing on the Pagle/Mankrik cluster and when I queue for the level10-19 BG, I have never got in after waiting for hours. Active vanilla pvp cluster? Petsit-sargeras April 6, 2023, 9:16pm. The alliance Pagle cluster 11-20 was the obly one that hit a cap of 50 so i. Haven’t seen any information that contradicts this post, so as far as I know those are still the largest server clusters. NoraAdora • 8 mo. The Hardcore realms shou…We do not have exact numbers, but if the census data is near true, Era used to have 60/40 ratio H:A. The chance of you finding edgemaster's for sale on a server with 200 players is essentially zero. We’ve found the configuration bug that caused multiple layers to spin up on non-Hardcore Classic Era realms. Robokappa-sargeras (Robokappa) December 25, 2021, 5:06am #4. We’ve found the configuration bug that caused multiple layers to spin up on non-Hardcore Classic Era realms. Arcanite Bars are at a minimum 150g-170g each. This. Alliance ~11k, Horde ~2. SOM Closing and people are cloneing their chars to era aswell. Being Whitemane one of the highest populated servers during Classic, this made it so that plenty of characters’ names were already taken, mostly by inactive players, when they transferred over. 2+ raiding guilds on ally on NA PVE East, including a 15/15 Naxx guild. 4. EMPIRE has quickly become one of the most promising hardcore guilds on Whitemane, and we still want you to join us. As players from Phase 3 start maximizing on their gear more than likely they will probably come back to Classic . My guildies and I play Horde on the 5 realm cluster in the NA PvP East. It was even worse than STV and Searing Gorge. Anathema, Arcanite Reaper, Bigglesworth, Blameux, Fairbanks, Kurinaxx, Rattlegore, Smolderweb, Thunderfury, and Whitemane are connected. Replies: 0. Firemaw cluster - PvP. Get instant notifications when the latest news is published via the. This is a lot of great info, thanks a bunch! So for battlegrounds, it doesn’t matter what cluster you are on, you will see everyone? Helbilly-grobbulus. It’s a PvP server, but it’s been fun. Otherwise Mankrik cluster for PvE. • Whitemane Cluster for PvP - apparently, the population is close to 50/50 • Bloodsail Buccanees for HC I wouldn't even consider BB for non HC characters, it's either Mankrik or Whitemane. [“Whitemane”] = { [“notes”] = { [“Gainzs”] = “DM 2023. The Whitemane cluster is popping, people online all the time, faction balance is close to 50-50 for a pvp server, lots of levelers & dungeon groups. It is a PVP server though, I'm not sure what the best PVE one is. I’m on the Mankrik cluster on the Horde side, which is the lower populated faction, and there’s still a lot of people. Getting more and more. | 21407 members. 1) or stick with Classic Era (version 1. I've been playing on Whitemane Alliance leveling a new toon and there are a lot people leveling, active leveling guilds, auction house sales and groups going on. Whitemane cluster - PvP. Firemaw cluster - PvP. About Us We are new guild starting up on Era with the main focus of leveling and building friendships. Basically, I'd like to ask if the character I have on Deviate Delight (classic era) is stranded in a useless place. For pve servers Mankrik is well populated and is an east coast server. I have zero interest in that sort of gameplay, defeats the whole point of the game imo. I will accept US West if I have to. 4%. Go whitemane for near balanced PvP, go mankrik for alliance dominated pve. I don’t know about a less specific mega-discord than that; otherwise I mainly see guild/GDKP discord links going around. What guild (or guilds) has these players? Alliance btw. Plan on play Paladin. Thanks in advance. Also don't listen to the dissenters, Classic Era servers are decently populated you just need to find the right clustersRealm Connections. July 30, 2023. NoraAdora • 8 mo. Again, we are completely neutral. 6. It took a lot of mana for me. 2. For instance, Mankrik is a PVE Horde mega server. I would advise chatting in-game with the locals of any prospective server and see which place is the best fit for you. OutsideTheServiceBox • 6 mo.